Kurzweil:Dead Letters September 1998
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111: Re: Special Programming Question
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:11:01 -0500 From: Joey Jaime <denizen@INSYNC.NET> Subject: ########## 111: Re: Special Programming Question
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Dhiraj Bhattacharya wrote:
> While I'm searching the documentation, does anybody know off the top of > their head how you assign pitch bend as an aftertouch action to only a > particular layer of a patch? I must have this NOT affect the rest of the > patch (the other layers).
Well how about just assigning the mono-pressure controller to the pitch of the layer you want to affect, and not the others. Perhaps there's something I'm missing...
117: Re: Special Programming Question
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:24:47 +1000 From: Tristan Upton <tu@ALPHALINK.COM.AU> Subject: ########## 117: Re: Special Programming Question
You can use aftertouch to just bend one layer by assigning it as a modulator on the pitch page for that layer. The only downside with this is that aftertouch on the keyboard is monophonic, which means that when you play another drum sound the aftertouch from pushing that key will affect the pitch of the modulated one. Your other option is to use a foot controller or one of the ribbons as a pitch modulator on the layer you want to bend.
118: Re: Special Programming Question
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:03:54 -0700 From: Chris Lamb <chris@LEFT.COM> Organization: Left Field Productions Subject: ########## 118: Re: Special Programming Question
this should work; go to the common page of your program and turn the pitch bend range to 0 cts. This stops the pitch wheel from affecting any layers. Next, go to the pitch page of layer 3, Highlight Scr2, press the enter button and move the pitchwheel at the same time. The Pwheel should now be assigned to scr2. Next, Highlight the DptCtl under Scr2, press the enter button and push down on your sustain pedal at the same time. sustain chould now be assigned as the dptctl. Now just set the range you want the tabla to be bent in the MaxDpt e.g 400 cts. When you play the note now and press the sustain pedal and move the pitchwheel you should be able to hear the drum at different pitches.
You may want to go to the layer page of layer 3 and turn off
Suspdl. This stops the pedal from acting as a sustain but seeing as its a drum kit your programming, it wont make much difference.
I've not tried this, my K isnt with me right now but it should work -
let me know if it doesnt. good luck.
chris
112: Re: MPress to Pitch
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:30:31 -0500 From: Daniel Fisher <Daniel_Fisher@SWEETWATER.COM> Subject: ########## 112: Re: MPress to Pitch
>Does anybody know off the top of their head how to assign >Mono Pressure to bend the Pitch of a particular Layer in a >Program? This must NOT affect the the other Layers of the Program.
>If I can have either Mono Pressure or Continuous Foot Control >(or better yet, both) bend ONLY the Pitch of Layer 3, I will have >created my masterpiece Tabla patch!
Hi Dhiraj,
As in all things VAST there are several ways to do this. Here's the easiest:
On Layer 3, go to the Pitch Page and assign MPress to Src1.
Set the Depth to the desired value. "Ta-Da!" Done.
Now, if you also want Continuous Foot Control (CC#4) to do the same thing, you can create an "a+b" FUN that has MPress and Foot combined and then assign that FUN to Src1 in the Pitch Page.
Or, for separate Depths on MPress and Foot, leave MPress in Src1 and additionally assign Foot to Src2's DptCtl. Make Src2 be "On" and set Src2's MaxDpt to the desired value. Done!
As a final touch, you may want to run MPress through a Lowpass FUN to smooth out the Pitch bending a little. (It will keep your Tabla's pitch from jumping back to zero to quickly.)
Good luck with your masterpiece,
Daniel Fisher Director of Soundware Engineering Sweetwater Soundware Development Facility
154: Re: KDFX Bleeding
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 19:25:41 -0400 From: Geoffrey Mayer <geoffrey@BRIGHT.NET> Subject: ########## 154: Re: KDFX Bleeding? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Keni Fink wrote (Friday, September 04, 1998 12:08 a.m.):
>I'm having an interesting dilemma here....
>
>I've setup a kick (panned hard left on layer 1) and a snare (panned hard
>right on layer 2) and assigned them both to the same kdfx output
>(kdfx-b)...
>
>Here, I've chosen 2 mono FX (from the stock ones) which are one for the
>left and a different one for the right....
>
>I've assigned the kdfx-b to output b, but I get a little bit of "bleed"
>from each track! (a small amount of snare on the kick output and
>vice-versa)....
>
>All my settings are for pan=0 and width=100%
>
>What am I missing????
Keni,
Just checking -- you have set the KDFX studio B inputs to mono? Have you set the Digitech wet/dry mix to zero on the effects page of the program or on the Effects mode page (if in master mode on the effects mode page)?
Two ideas that occured to me.
God bless!
Geoffrey Mayer
333: Re: KDFX MONO output dilemma
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:16:48 -0500 RFrom: Steven Kinchen <skinchen@EARTHLINK.NET> Subject: ########## 333: Re: KDFX MONO output dilemma?
Make sure that the two outputs are bypassing the final aux bus and that their output is routed directly to the output group that you are trying to use (A, B, C, or D.) Hope this helps... Steve <><
> -----Original Message----- > From: K2000 user's group mailto:K2000@AMERICAN.EDUOn Behalf Of Keni > Fink > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 1:00 PM > To: K2000@AMERICAN.EDU > Subject: KDFX MONO output dilemma? > > > OK.... I'm having some serious problems getting the kdfx to allow me > individual MONO FX outputs.... > > I'm trying to run a kick drum out GroupB-L and a snare out GroupB-R > > I've tried all 3 (mono/sp/sb) modes, but no matter what I do, there's > ALWAYS the stereo FX on BOTH dised (unless of course I set it to > wt/dry=0, thereby eliminating the FX)! This is MOST frustrating! I want > FX on each of these items (even if only mono) and can't seem to find it > in the manual OR by experimentation (so far).... > > I'm ALSO lost as far as finding how to affect/change the LEFT algorhythm > of a preset with seperate L/R algorhythms..... > > Any help would be greatly appreciated... > > Thanks... > > Keni
426: Re: Programming Challenge
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:53:54 -0700 From: Chris Lamb <chris@LEFT.COM> Organization: Left Field Productions Subject: ########## 426: Re: Programming Challenge
Hi,
on the layer page of your palm rubbing sample, there is a parameter
called enable. This switches the layer on and off. You can set this to whatever pedal you want by hichlighting the parameter, holding enter and moving yor pedal.
The two numbers underneath the Enable parameter set the range of the
enable. The default is 64 - 127 which means whenever your pedal transmits a value within this range the layer will be turned on. A value outside this range turns the layer off.
If your foot pedal is a continuous controller (transmits all values
from 0 - 127 and not just Off (0) and On (127)) you could set the enable for the down rubbing to 64 - 96 and set the "up rubbing" to another layer with the enable set to the same controller but with values 97 - 127.
There are quite a few ways to do this, but its hard to write fully
without knowing your set-up e.g. how many pedals do you have, are they continuous etc. If you're still having trouble write back.
good luck with the patch - it sounds like an interesting project
chris
Dhiraj Bhattacharya wrote:
>
> This may not much of a challenge to some of you pro K programmers, but how
> can I assign a noise patch to a foot control? To explain, when I press the
> foot control, it will change the pitch of a patch layer and ALSO add noise
> at a controlled level. I got the pitch change part down (lots of thanks to
> all of you who have helped!). But I can't figure out how I can add the
> noise.
>
> This effort is in continuation of my pursuit of the impeccable tabla patch.
> I've mentioned before that when you press on the baya drum with your palm,
> it changes the pitch of that drum. I've got the foot controller to handle
> that. It sounded really good! (Thanks again!)
>
> However, some realness was still missing. After more careful examination
> of baya recordings, I found that in addition to the pitch change, the
> RUBBING NOISE OF THE PALM ON THE LEATHER HEAD adds to the
beauty of baya
> inflection sounds (rub your two hands together and listen to what I mean).
> I'm finding this is very important in duplicating the real thing.
>
> I would like to sample the rubbing noise and have it play whenever the foot
> control is pressed for layer 3 of the patch (this is the baya layer). I
> would also like to play different samples for pressing up and pressing down
> (but this may be asking too much).
>
> Of course, this would be in addition to the pitch bend (don't want to fool
> with that -- it took me 3 hours to get it just right!).
>
> I realize that in a sequencing situation this would not be any problem
> because I can have another layer of the rubbing noise and just add that note
> on another track every time the pitch of that drum is bent. However,
> remember that I'm trying to make this patch for LIVE PLAYING. This is why
> all the extra effort.
>
> Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dhiraj
441: Re: Programming Challenge
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:17:38 +0000 From: George Hamilton <geosync@EARTHLINK.NET> Organization: GEOSYNC Music Subject: ########## 441: Re: Programming Challenge
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:42:05 -0400 > From: Dhiraj Bhattacharya <dhiraj@UU.NET> > Subject: Programming Challenge > > > > <<SNIP>>
> > I would like to sample the rubbing noise and have it play whenever the foot > control is pressed for layer 3 of the patch (this is the baya layer). I > would also like to play different samples for pressing up and pressing down > (but this may be asking too much). > > Of course, this would be in addition to the pitch bend (don't want to fool > with that -- it took me 3 hours to get it just right!). >
I missed the pitch bend part but a couple of things to try
1: assign key velocity on the pitch page of each layer, the harder you strike the more pitch you have
2: on each layer, go to the output page.. there is cross fade assign one layer normal, the other layer reverse then assign the pedal as a control.
3: you may also add layer 3 and four and assign a cross fade of more sounds and use another controller to switch them
Try it and see what happens Take Care,
George Hamilton
Matkatamibakundo 10:42, 4 October 2006 (EDT)
